Member of the Mormon Church for a lifetime. Got a wife and 4 kids. We are in an alternate universe when it comes to our understanding of the world as seen thru the lens of our media and government distortion. Our government serves massive corporate interests over the interests of democracy and a good and orderly society with freedom of expression. We have gone around the world deterring democracy (to borrow the title of one of Noam Chomsky’s great books) all in the interest of getting gain and power and the honor and glory of the world. We are thoroughly indoctrinated with the all is well in Zion line and thoroughly infiltrated by Satan’s clever orchestration of secret combinations. My desire is to bring the things of darkness to light and expose them for what they are. Most often people in the Church are blind to the realities of international politics and economics and I humbly hope (and sometimes not so humbly) that I can bring some light to the situation. I previously wrote over at sign-of-the-times for a while, but I’m being cut off from my free site. Thus the change. The name (signs-of-the-times) was taken on Word press thus the new title as well. Perhaps it’s more fitting. My previous site will be up until 12/31/07 and I’ll be posting the same messages in both places until the full conversion takes place. Thanks for visiting.
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The Radical Mormon 
The secret combinations have arrived here in the U S of A alright. But are you sure you’ve got your finger pointed in the right direction? Take a look at the internal evidence. Do some research on the Federal Reserve, for instance. Do you know the history behind its creation? Social welfare, for two. That’s pretty corrupt. You don’t believe me, go to a grocery store and watch what people buy with their Food Stamps and Cash Allowances vs. what the hard-working American buys with his ever scarcer dollar bill. You want corruption? Take a look at our Party system. A system warned against by General Washing 210 years ago. Is anyone surprised that today we see exactly what he said we would? I’m with you on a corrupt government, but I’m not anti-American, and neither is the Church. Read what the Church has published about this country, because it’s good more often than not.
I know of the Fed, but don’t concentrate on them too much. Waste in food stamps and social services don’t concern me a whole lot. Sure it can be a problem, but it’s just not on the radar with the much bigger problems we have. I agree that our two major parties are corrupt.
I’m not anti-american either. In fact I’m so pro-american that I want to clean out the secret combinations from our system. I’m familiar with what our Church teaches of our nation. I’ve taken to reading the scriptures lately and see a pretty bleak picture of what ancient holy men saw in our nation. Take 3Nephi 16:10 for instance:
10 And thus commandeth the Father that I should say unto you: At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the people of the whole earth, and shall be filled with all manner of lyings, and of deceits, and of mischiefs, and all manner of hypocrisy, and murders, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and of secret abominations; and if they shall do all those things, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, behold, saith the Father, I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them.
The Lord mentions 3 times in 3Nephi how the House of Jacob will go thru and tread us down. This is repeated in Mormon 5:22-24 where it says:
22 And then, O ye Gentiles, how can ye stand before the power of God, except ye shall repent and turn from your evil ways?
23 Know ye not that ye are in the hands of God? Know ye not that he hath all power, and at his great command the earth shall be rolled together as a scroll?
24 Therefore, repent ye, and humble yourselves before him, lest he shall come out in justice against you—lest a remnant of the seed of Jacob shall go forth among you as a lion, and tear you in pieces, and there is none to deliver.
This message is repeated unmistakenly in D&C 87:5
5 And it shall come to pass also that the remnants who are left of the land will marshal themselves, and shall become exceedingly angry, and shall vex the Gentiles with a sore vexation.
There are many other such warnings in the scriptures against our land. Remember that this land is blessed by the Lord only so long as we make Him our God. Our embracing of secret combinations is ample evidence to me that we are in deep doodoo. As Moroni said (of course speaking directly to us here in this land and giving a perfect description of exactly what our country is doing right now) in Ether 8:24-26:
24 Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up.
25 For it cometh to pass that whoso buildeth it up seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people, for it is built up by the devil, who is the father of all lies; even that same liar who beguiled our first parents, yea, even that same liar who hath caused man to commit murder from the beginning; who hath hardened the hearts of men that they have murdered the prophets, and stoned them, and cast them out from the beginning.
26 Wherefore, I, Moroni, am commanded to write these things that evil may be done away, and that the time may come that Satan may have no power upon the hearts of the children of men, but that they may be persuaded to do good continually, that they may come unto the fountain of all righteousness and be saved.
Hey Curtis, nice website. I’ll have to add it to the blogroll and check it out.
Thanks Dan,
Nice to see you here. I often visit your site. We have a lot in common.
Hey radical
This is a great blog. I am not LDS but have been finding myself quite amazed to discover this undercurrent (if that’s the correct word) of LDS people who are progressive minded socially and politically. I have been an admirer of the church and LDS people for some time but must admit that the apparent marriage between the Rep. Party and the LDS church scared me off of all things LDS. You and some others like mesj.org & the good democrat are helping me realize again that I cannot call the LDS church monolithic…I am learning that about Evangelicals as well…
Ok so what attracted me here was your re-post of B’Tselem year end report taken from electronic intifada…I too posted that info on my blog and found your post through a search. Pleased to see the posts you have on the Palestinian-Israeli ‘conflict’. I was just in the Occupied Palestinian Territories in July for a couple of weeks and since then have been speaking to churches in my area about what I saw.
Thanks for you blog ~ keep it up!
sorry should be thepromiseofpalestine.blogspot.com
peace
Chad,
Thanks for commenting. I know that there are only a few who hold similar views to me among LDS Church members. I think that it is difficult for many to see thru the blinders our government and our media slant put on us. I try not to be too judgemental of others who can’t see for whatever reason, but I am absolutely horrified by what is occurring with our tacit approval in Palestine and in other parts of the world. I am glad to see folks such as yourself informing in such a constructive manner (nice website by the way).
Maybe we can make a little difference at the end of the day. I don’t feel I can just sit still for any of this and won’t settle for anything less than that which God truly desires for us. Thus my efforts here.
Looking forward to collaborating in the future.
Great: http://english.aljazeera.net
Huahahaaa…!
Hello there. A friend of mine told me you had used a section in my Suharto article. Thanks for the interest. Warm regards from the Philippines.
red
Ah,
I loved your article. Here’s where I used it:
I’m honored to have you visit here. I look forward to your writings in the future.
Encontré este blog, a través de otras páginas. No puedo negar que me parece muy interesante esta postura crítica a su gobierno desde la perspectiva de ser mormón, por lo que he visto no suelen ser mayoría. En Chile, desde donde escribo, también hay algo de no comprometerse mucho con el mundo, pero no me impresiona con tanta fuerza, igual habemos quienes entendemos que “estamos en el mundo pero no somos del mundo” como un no dejarse arrastrar que es muy distinto a no involucrarse, “no somos del mundo pero estamos en él” y somos parte de la vida ciudadana (social, política, gremial)
Sigue con tu blog, la traducción de las escrituras más arriba es buena pero no tanto, así que mejor leer la referencia desde la triple (así llamamos a la combinación L. Mormón, D y C, Perla de Gran Precio)
Espero que sepa castellano, yo no sé inglés pero cada vez es más claro que debo por lo menos leer y entender (la traducción no es lo mismo)
Thank you Netty. Nice to hear from you. Keep up with your “triple”. Are you a member of the Church in Chile?
Saludos, su blog me ayuda a mantenerme informada sobre ustedes y su arrogante internvención en Irak.
Respecto a su pregunta,soy miembro, conversa desde mi adolescencia, pero de eso han pasado como 32 años, se podría decir que he vivido ligada a la Iglesia la mayor parte de mi vida.
Hey man, check out our website. I think that you will find that we are quite similar in our views. We would love to have you contribute to the paper.
Wow Jason. Really great website. I like very much what you are doing. I read the article on the Iraq war and thought it was tip-top quality. We are indeed similar in our views. I’d love to contribute if I have something worthy. I’m glad you stopped by.
Wow, never thought I’d agree with a radical Mormon! You might be interested in the ideas of Ralph Nader…
http://dogeatery2.wordpress.com
I’m all over that. This will be the 4th election I’ve voted for Nader. Go Nader!
I wish you would become a little more diversified in what you bring to light.
You should do a few blurbs every now and then on the serious condition of our economy thanks to the secret combinations that are directing the affairs of the world
Here is a little food for thought http://www.specialoffersbulletinboard.org/eric.htm
CRC, wow, that’s a lot of food for thought! Thanks for the suggestion. I’ve always considered the economy as sort of an annoying footnote in the annals of the secret combinations of our day. The wealth of this world is fake wealth and I don’t say that I’ve looked forward to the demise spoken of in Revelation Chapter 18 because of the inevitable sufferring that will accompany such a demise, but I will definitely not sorrow for the secret combinations that will mourn the loss of the economic system that currently has hold in this world, with Satan as its fund manager. In any case, I’ll consider your suggestion. Nice to hear from you again.
Hey, just noticed the blog name after the other posting on Iran. And maybe you have a better answer on this than I, given your Mormon and it’s been many years since I was in Utah last 😦 What’s the take on SLC mayor Rocky Anderson from the general Mormon electorate’s point of view if you know? Maybe you can comment on it a little over here as my thinking is he might be able to consolidate a voter block within Utah’s sphere of influence in the bordering states.
Sorry Hans,
I live in San Diego and am not aware of Rocky’s standing there.
We are not as much of a minority as some think. We have just been taught to be so nice so as not to offend our brothers and sisters. The problem with this that those who agree with us are left for years to feel alone in wards across the world. Nice to have a speak-out.
Blessings!
Judy
I thought I was alone. It’s nice to find that I am not. I support and am grateful for what your doing here.
For me, it started in 2002, in an obviously deceitful marketing of the upcoming war. The scales began to fall from my eyes and my world view has changed forever. Trying to reconcile Alma 43:45-46 and 48:14 with views held by most of rest of my tribe, from the top down, has been been painful, though.
I did not think in terms of one the main Book of Mormon themes, secret combinations, until I saw the documentary, “Why We Fight”. Then I realized for myself a connection, a combination of the ruling elite (corporations) and government, for the purpose of acquiring power and gain.
I realized then that not all was well in Zion, even though there is an illusion of prosperity.
Amen Kevin. Thanks for speaking up. I think there is a lot in the Book of Mormon that our brothers and sisters have to reconcile to their views on our nation’s wars. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the antithesis to our nation’s current doctrine of war. If you have time, check out this post on war and the Gospel of Jesus Christ:
Hope you have chance to come by and put your 2 cents in once in a while. Take care brother.
The incredible hypocrisy and support for imperialist invasions and impositions on other people has kind of disabused me from mainstream Chritianity.
I don’t support capitalism, at all, and I believe that it is healthy for subordinated people to cast off their chains.
My inclinations are nationalist and populist–and I am imbued with a deep sense of anti-imperialism. I have much respect for indigenous peoples, and their efforts to maintain their culture and live more healthfully and sustainably.
No, I am not a dogmatic anything–just sensible enough to see that accepting irrational and unjust hierarchies of human power as being against God (which I don’t attempt to define in any traditional sense).
Though I am not aligned with mainstream Christian denominations, I try to live by the dictum “Do unto others…”, not “Do TO others, before they DO (injustice) to you.” The latter is simply insane and will see the complete ruin of our ability to live in a healthy, sane fasion on this earth.
It is a healthy sign that you maintain your faith, and your family, are not a sheeple. We all make decisions as to what we identify with–and, to a large extent, ignorance and propaganda should be no excuse.
Lastly, I believe with MLK, Jr. that ‘the arch of the moral universe bends toward justice’–and that the bend of this arch is contingent on our actions/beliefs.
Keep up the good work. My best regard to your wife and kids.
Slave Revolt
Thanks slave,
The golden rule is one we can all live by to make this rock a little better place. I appreciate your comment.
Great Blog! Several of us ‘down under’ (Australia & New Zealand) share same beliefs, and we’re digging deeper (not that you have to dig too far)… I guess we feel like spectators, since everything political that happens in the US affects each of us around the world.
Mormons have alot more info than the average person (The Book of Mormon, modern prophets like Ezra Benson), so it’s surprising that so few of us want to even talk about it. Most people I speak to seam to roll their eyes, and turn off their brains on the subjects. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Aussie. Good to know there’s a little life in the church out there. The blog is turning out to be not too comprehensive lately as the wife and 4 kids and other responsibilities are keeping me busy lately, but I will keep on uncovering works of darkness as I am able. Take care.
Great stuff. I used to feel that no one else in the entire Church thought this way. I converted to the Church shortly after high school and attending a small college in the US west coast. I am originally from a Pacific island nation. After serving a mission in the US, after graduating from BYU-Hawaii, and then going on to attend graduate school, I became disillusioned by the silence, some hypocrisy, and just plain ignorance among the Church membership of the deadly consequences US foreign policies was inflicting on the world. I am no longer active in the Church, although I can never imagine myself converting to any other faith. The LDS Church was and continues to be my spiritual anchor. But it’s difficult to reconcile so many secular and spiritual things.
In graduate school, I took to learning passionately about the so-called globalization of the world and the greater attendant awareness of our living in a *global* village, with its diversities, languages, peoples, histories, cultures, etc. Yet, the Church in my mind continues to be an American Church mostly. Granted the membership of the General Authorities and many areas of the Church reflect this globalization of our world. But the attitudes and culture of this Church largely remain very American. I am complaining. I am making an observation that while the Church is perhaps slowly realizing and making the necessary changes, I often wonder whether the snailpace rate of change mimic a deeper inability of the Church to reexamine its American history and the political contexts of its founding. The Church is after all, in principle, is not an American church per se. It is a world church with a mission to address the spiritual condition of the world population, hopefully, to provide remedies for the world’s many secular and spiritual ills.
This is, in part, in my mind, what I believe is what’s lacking among national and local LDS leaders and membership. And perhaps what’s keeping my away from the Church.
This site and your views and the views of others are comforting to see and read. They are promising. I wonder whether anyone, you included, ever consider these things and whether any one cares?
Happy New Year.
Jan 1, 2009
Hi Richard,
Thanks for stopping by. I’m always encouraged to find kindred spirits out there. I see so little understanding in my fellow-church members of what is going on in the world, and I become very discouraged by it. I suppose I used to be more disturbed by it when I was younger. It all seems so clear to me how the secret combinations spoken of in the Book of Mormon sound perfectly similar to movements such as the Multilateral Agreement on Investments (MAI) of the 90s… or similar to the things spoken of by John Perkins in “Confessions of an Economic Hitman,”… or of that illuminated by Noam Chomsky in “Manufacturing Consent,” “Necessary Illusions,” or “Deterring Democracy.”
And then I read scriptures like this one, found in JST Matthew 21:
52 I am the head of the corner. These Jews shall fall upon me, and shall be broken.
53 And the kingdom of God shall be taken from them, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof; (meaning the Gentiles.)
54 Wherefore, on whomsoever this stone shall fall, it shall grind him to powder.
55 And when the Lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, he will destroy those miserable, wicked men, and will let again his vineyard unto other husbandmen, even in the last days, who shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
56 And then understood they the parable which he spake unto them, that the Gentiles should be destroyed also, when the Lord should descend out of heaven to reign in his vineyard, which is the earth and the inhabitants thereof.
and I go hmmm…
It is my testimony that the keys of the kingdom rest upon Pres. Monson and the 12. It is beyond me why the Church puts so much energy, for example, into California’s prop 8 and speak nothing against the moral outrage that is the Iraq war. Doesn’t it destroy the family to blow a family to bits by a 2,000 lb. bomb dropped from one of our Air Force’s best?
I feel that the best way to help correct the ills I see in the Church is to do whatever I am privileged to do in bringing souls closer to Christ. I am confident that as people become more like the Savior, they will begin to become enlightened as to the sufferring of their brothers and sisters on this planet. I may be fooling myself a little here, but it is what I hang onto. I know that I will not go wrong if I seek to bring souls closer to Christ in my social life, while writing my soul’s complaint against the powers that be on this site. I hope sincerely that some of my brothers and sisters in the gospel will be enlightened by the things posted here.
I feel that the best way to help correct the ills I see in the Church is to do whatever I am privileged to do in bringing souls closer to Christ. I am confident that as people become more like the Savior, they will begin to become enlightened as to the sufferring of their brothers and sisters on this planet. I may be fooling myself a little here, but it is what I hang onto.
In fooling yourself, you are giving other people hope. In knowing that, you aren’t really fooling yourself at all.
Sorta like this fellow…
http://pristalica.wordpress.com/2008/12/25/new-model-revolution/
His name was Styepan Filipovich (that’s the transliteration, anyway).
I don’t like to self promote, but I don’t have an e-mail for you. You’re welcome to delete this after you read it.
Keep doing exactly what you’re doing, even if you’re sure it’s hopeless. The people who come after you will get it right if you don’t manage it.
Love. Hope. Daring to dream of a future, perfect; and conjuring this unlikely vision as your final thought.
Daring to shout the truth at a world which is self-destructing. Envisioning paradise, even as everything around you burns.
If it’s all you can do, then it’ll be enough…
Thanks Gregoire,
That was an inspirational story. I appreciate it. I also see that you and I have something else in common. My eldest daughter was born 12/19/1994. Happy birthday to your little sweetie who is becoming a woman before your eyes. It’s going by way too fast.
It does get away from you, doesn’t it?
I’m surprised to learn you’re my age. I had you pegged for someone in his early 20s. Then again, maybe not. When we’re in those early years we think we’ll live forever, and we dare to cross the powers that be… then we have kids and we become good little sheep.
By the time we’re old men (I’m 38, it feels pretty old) they can’t really do much to scare us any longer, so we start writing, talking, thinking again.
Congrats to your own little girl. 14 — what an age.
Radical Mormon,
You are right on quoting 3 Nephi 16:10 and following verses as a specific warning to the USA. A careful reading of chapters 20 and 21 in conjunction with 1 Nephi 11 through 14, and related scriptures makes it clear that when the Lord talks “Gentiles” he is talking primarily about us North American Gringos, as well as the “Mother Gentiles” that we come from, i.e. what was known as “Christendom” at the time of Columbus, when World Domination by Westerners really got going.
I just got through watching the National Geographic documentary based on Jared Diamond’s book “Guns, Germs, and Steel.” There you see what Isaiah, Nephi and Moroni saw in vision many centuries ago about the Europeans running roughshod over the scattered remnants of the House of Israel, i.e. non-Europeans.
Babylon, Assyria, and Egypt are the code words that Isaiah uses for us European Americans because of our cultural decadence, our militaristic cruelty, and our role as economic oppressors. The juxtaposition of Isaiah quotations with the Lord’s prophecies about the latter-day Gentiles makes this abundantly clear.
Most people don’t realize that due to very early and thorough scattering, all living humans, including Europeans have Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob among their ancestors. But in the Book of Mormon, for ease of discourse, the Lord calls some of us (mostly we Gringos) Gentiles, while everybody else is included among the other sheep of the House of Israel that he said he would visit throughout Africa, Asia, and the isles of the sea after his visit to the Lamanites and Nephites.
“More are the children of the desolate …” and “who hath begotten me these?” The complete revelation of this information will be a surprise to most people.
The warnings to the Gentiles in the Book of Mormon are not to the people of China, Iran, Afghanistan, etc. but to us.
The European Jews are behaving like the European Gentiles whose militaristic culture they have adopted. They are treating the Palestinians the same way we Ephraimite Gentiles have treated the American Indians, the South African Natives, and other scattered remnants of Joseph all over the world.
But when the Lord makes bare his holy arm to cut us Gentiles down to size so that he can return to the scattered remnants of Israel the lands that we have stolen from them, after that “Judah will cease to vex [the Palestinian descendants of] Ephraim.” Meanwhile Jerusalem (the opposite of Babylon) will have been built up by remnants of Joseph in Latin America, Africa, Asia, and the isles of the sea.
Mormons know that “Babylon” is a synonym for “The great and Abominable Church,” but they don’t always realize that “Jerusalem” is the corresponding word in Isaiah that is a synonym for Zion, the society that can only exist on celestial principles.
Because of this and similar confusion of terminology, they get over enthused with the Israeli state, and tend to equate “fighting against Zion” with fighting against Tel Aviv.
The picture is clear when the rest of the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle are put together, but this is all I can say for now.
Keep up the good work.
Forest,
Thanks for your insightful comments. It is clear that you are very enlightened on this topic of how the ancient prophecies relate to our current situation. I look forward to hearing more from you. I see that you are also active over at the mormonworker site. Good to know you.
Hey Forest & TRM,
I’m really glad this discussion is archived. I have never had as much respect for the LDS standard works as I do this week. It was less than two days ago that I read this little back-and-forth through the wordpress reader and a light-bulb went off.
The Frankfurt School guys used to talk about art and literature as a sort of dangerous fossil that could penetrate false consciousness, and re-impose a higher ideal from which regular people could take inspiration and eventually reconstruct a better society. I’ve never taken LDS scripture literally (even when I was a little boy I remember being sort of a realist) but I now see that it’s an example of ‘high culture’ which ‘holds out the possibility of future truth’ in a decadent world (to steal some phrases from those guys).
Anyway… Thanks for such an interesting discussion. Even I can start to see these works as *prophetic* in this context.
Hi,
I am very surprised to find a Radical Mormon blog. I myself am an atheist, but as long as we are working for for peace and justice in this world, then we are brothers and sisters.
Cheers,
Hi Sheldon,
I believe all of us on this rock are brothers and sisters. Good to know you my friend.
Dear Radicalmormon,
I wonder if you could let me email you off site.
Thanks,
Forest
Sure Forest. In fact I have already sent you an email so you can just reply to it.
Wow, you are fascinating.
If ever there was a time not to use the word fascinating as a compliment, it’s now.
Its as inescapable of a fact that the world is full of misguided self-hating morons as is the fact that rational intelligent people (read: people other then you and your friends) will have to live in a world with you people, until you find a way to end the world for all of us or align yourself with the Islamic Theocracies that will do it for you, which is painfully obvious that you’ve enthusiastically done.
Seems like you and what looks like your nut job friends are in bliss that you’ve found each other on this blog. Well you all have two things in common: you’re all enthusiastic about being completely unabashed morons, an you’re all dangerous.
I always with for however many minutes I take to waste on people like you but when I find you on the internet, my gag reflex kicks in and I have to show that you are the puke that follows.
You deserve an Iranian nuke to go off up your fucking ass. Idiot.
You are typical of the type of people who criticize. You introduce no substantive arguement. You merely name-call and use foul language. If you have something substantive to say you are welcome here any time.
I am preparing for my 2nd interview later in the afternoon and this site really helped me a lot! ,
Incarceration after a fair trial will simply not exist as an option in the event of societal breakdown. ,
i found this blog a prolific one as it seems to be perusing the situation to bring forth the truth in the form of facts, go with it to bravo… imho!!!
Good site. I’m a new blogger and looking for faithful LDS bloggers with moderate to progressive views (basically, anyone who doesn’t watch Glenn Beck or plans to vote for Romney). We ought to build on each other. You may be interested in my Temperate Pacifist view:
http://www.moderatebutpassionate.com/p/temperate-pacifism.html
keep up the good work!
Greetings fellow “Radical”,
I apologize for the indirect communication (I couldn’t locate an email address), but my wife and I have enjoyed reading and perusing your blog for some time and were thinking/hoping that you might be interested in a blog that we have recently begun with a few others: http://voiceoftheorder.blogspot.com/ . Being complete neophytes in the blogosphere/bloggernacle, I was hoping that you might take a glance there and consider whether my initial posting would be of interest to you or your readers/contributors/etc. If such is the case, I would kindly request that you mention it, link to it, or comment upon it in order to generate traffic and interest in what I hope will become an innovative and relevant topic to interested members of the LDS community. We’d appreciate any links (or advice for that matter).
Please keep up the good work in providing an interesting and valuable resource for the online LDS community.
Best regards,
Morley-Moffitt.
hi radical brother im not lds or even christian but when thinking about what would jesus do i think he would agree with you . i really like your blogs , you have great insight and are not afraid of the truth , as you know the truth will set us free . keep up the good work that is the good news . best wishes from england