Hillary as an intermediary while Gaza suffers

This article from the ABC News claims that Hillary, as Secretary of State gives both Palestinians and Israelis reason to be hopeful. 

“Israelis and Palestinians know Bill Clinton and they know Hillary Clinton,” said David Makovsky, senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “The Palestinians remember her embracing Arafat’s wife Souha, the Israelis remember her as the senator from New York who threatened Iran.”

Having taken both pro-Palestinian positions and pro-Israeli positions may, in fact, strengthen her position as a diplomat and negotiator, rather than hurt it, said Tamara Wittes, a Brookings Institute fellow who specializes in the Arab-Israeli peace process.

“It is a mixed legacy that could serve her well on both sides,” Wittes said.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/Story?id=6552039&page=1

I feel that Hillary is hardly one to be recognized for having an even hand when it comes to dealing with Palestinians and Israelis.  Her prostration before AIPAC in her campaign should be enough to point that out to the casual observer.  Hillary has pointed out in the past her deep disdain for the Palestinian people (this quote also is quite revealing in regards to the type of “democracy” Hillary supports in other nations and is probably the type of democracy those in power in the US seek for all nations we feel should be submitting to our will).  After the 2006 elections which placed Hamas into power, Hillary said:

“First, I don’t think we should have pushed for an election in the Palestinian territories. I think that was a big mistake. If we were going to push for an election, we should have made sure we did something to determine who was going to win instead of signing off on an electoral system that advantaged Hamas.”

That electoral system happened to be a democratic election declared to be free and fair by multiple international observers.

After Condi Rice’s famous callous quote about Lebanon going thru “birth pangs” while Israel was bombing and massacring it’s people, I look forward to what sort of statement Clinton will make with regard to the sufferring of the Palestinian people at the hands of Israel.  I appreciate this man’s viewpoint here comparing Abraham’s treatment of Sodom and Gommorah to Barak and Olmert’s treatment of Gaza:

As I sit and view the reports, photos and live videos streaming in from Gaza I find it impossible to make sense of it all. As a boy growing up in Israel and attending a regular public school, I remember being taught the story of Abraham, the patriarch arguing with God over the decision to destroy the city of Sodom:

“And Abraham stood before the lord. And Abraham drew near, and said: wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked, perhaps there be fifty righteous within the city, wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the righteous that are therein? ..and the Lord said, if I find in Sodom fifty just men within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes” Genesis, 18, 23-26. 

One has to admire Abraham for his tenacity, arguing with God almighty for the sake of fifty men! Today I heard the argument made that only 50 innocent people were killed in this attack and I thought: God would have spared Gaza for those 50, but not Ehud Barak.

One has to admire the idea that no matter what, the life of innocent civilians is sacred and must never be compromised. There can be no doubt that among the 1.5 million people residing in Gaza there are more than 50 righteous men and women, but more importantly, there are 800,000 children in Gaza. According to reports in the Israeli newspapers hundreds of thousands of children were on their way to and from school at the time that 50 Israeli war-planes began a nine hour attack during which they dropped more than 100 tons of bombs.

http://www.palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=14569

The sufferring is immense in Gaza as we speak and it is little wonder that the Gazans feel they have nowhere to turn but to armed resistance:

A senior United Nations official says many families in Gaza are facing a life-or-death situation as Israel continues its military offensive against Hamas.

U.N. humanitarian coordinator Maxwell Gaylord released a statement Wednesday calling on Israel to allow more humanitarian aid to flow into Gaza, which has been under a blockade.

Israel has said it will allow 2,000 tons more of food and medical supplies into Gaza, and will allow some wounded Gazans to seek medical treatment in Israel.

But Gaylord says it is crucial for the Karni border crossing to be opened to allow in wheat grain for the 750,000 people who rely upon U.N. relief.  He also says electricity needs to be fully restored to Gaza’s hospitals, which are overwhelmed with patients.

Many other world powers and human rights groups have expressed concern about the humanitarian situation in Gaza.

The Palestine Red Crescent Society issued an emergency appeal for nearly $7 million on Wednesday to support its humanitarian efforts in Gaza. The aid organization is part of the International Red Cross.

Britain on Wednesday pledged $10 million in emergency aid for the Gaza Strip, calling the human cost of Israel’s assault on the Palestinian territory “unacceptable.”

Britain’s aid minister, Douglas Alexander, expressed concern about dwindling medical supplies, food stocks and power cuts, which are affecting hospitals and other essential services in the Gaza Strip.

Greece’s foreign ministry said it will send two planes with 30 tons of medical aid to Tel Aviv, which will then be transported to Gaza.

On Tuesday, Israel allowed about 100 aid trucks and five ambulances into Gaza.

Nearly 400 Palestinians have died in five days of Israeli air strikes, and hundreds more have been wounded.

http://voanews.com/english/2008-12-31-voa64.cfm

Even the resistance to the Iranian government, which is supported by the US government, is speaking out against Israel’s cruel dealings in Gaza:

“The Iranian Resistance strongly condemns Israel’s attacks on the Gaza Strip and the killing of innocent civilians, in particular women and children,” the NCRI said. “It mourns with the Palestinian people, especially with the relatives of those who have perished.”

http://www.upi.com/Emerging_Threats/2008/12/31/Iranian_resistance_condemns_Israel_Iran/UPI-31051230758584/

Of course, I must always bring out the prophecy of Isaiah found in chapter 59 with regards to the nature of Israel:

 2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

  3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.

  4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

  5 They hatch cockatrice’ eggs, and weave the spider’s web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.

  6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.

  7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.

  8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.
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4 Responses to “Hillary as an intermediary while Gaza suffers”


  1. 1 Eben Fuad January 1, 2009 at 11:08 am

    “As a boy growing up in Israel”
    Whom are you trying to fool
    you were born and raised in Israel as I am called Eben Fuad.

    Your propaganda is so poor, try getting some high level writers and not everage Arab liars.

  2. 2 Jesus lover January 1, 2009 at 11:35 am

    1. Isreal was not always known as Palestine, it was know as Israel and then Israel and Judah after the ten tribe split. The Jewish people were in Israel long long long before any Muslims. So if you want to get technical about who actually has claim to Isreal, I’m afraid the Muslims lose by a few thousand years.
    2. Jesus Christ came to earth to die. Heaven help mankind if he did not. If you knew anything about the Bible you would know how absolutely critical this is. And thank GOD that He sent His Son to be sacrified for our sins.
    3. After the Isreali state was formed it was the Muslims who lead with the first act of aggression (and were handed their butts). So please, the Muslims started the aggression.
    4. As christians the scriptures tell us to support Israel, in fact we are explicitly told to “pray for the peace of Jerusalem…” So I’ll be praying for and supporting Israel until the day I die. I love Israel and the Jewish people.
    5. If you call Zionism a perversion of Judaism and you call their acts atrocities… What do you call the terrorism acts of the Muslims? My word, you certainly are blind to the truth.
    6. My commitment to Israel may be laughable to you but not to GOD.
    7. Israel is the gutsiest nation on this planet. What other nation could have survived the odds they have survived?

    Isreal is a tiny state with 6 million people that has enemy states surrounding it on EVERY side with hundreds of millions of people who are completely hostile towards them. They have had numerous wars where the combined forces of many of these hostile states have been united against them. They have overcome every one and everytime putting the Muslims armies to shame and humiliating them.

    I would like to see any other nation on earth do that? Why is that I wonder?

    Could it be because GOD is with Israel, and therefore they will never be overcome.

    No my friend, Israel is a beacon of hope in this world. They are courageous, resourceful and have done wonders with their country.

    What did the Muslims do with Palestine while they had it? Nothing, it went to the dogs!

    Israel stands out in the middle east as a country of success leading the way in farming, industry, technology, business.. The list is long! And they have no oil. The Arab countries in the region are oppressive, backward thinking and full of terrorists. I would even say that if Israel was not around for all of them to hate that the whole area would go down in a ball of flames as tribe tried to destroy tribe and country tried to conquer country.

    You can carry on whining about how bad Israel is but you have no leg to stand on. Israel puts all the Arab countries around her to shame!

    I continue to pray for the peace of Jerusalem…

  3. 3 Kevin January 1, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    I`d offer a rebuttal but it is useless to talk to someone who refuses to listen to reason

  4. 4 theradicalmormon January 1, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    Kevin,
    Agreed. Did I miss a piece of the conversation here?

    I would however, like to address Jesus Lover’s point #3 with a few people who are a bit more knowledgeable:

    “Menahem Begin, the Leader of the Irgun, tells how ‘in Jerusalem, as elsewhere, we were the first to pass from the defensive to the offensive…Arabs began to flee in terror…Hagana was carrying out successful attacks on other fronts, while all the Jewish forces proceeded to advance through Haifa like a knife through butter’…The Israelis now allege that the Palestine war began with the entry of the Arab armies into Palestine after 15 May 1948. But that was the second phase of the war; they overlook the massacres, expulsions and dispossessions which took place prior to that date and which necessitated Arab states’ intervention.” Sami Hadawi, “Bitter Harvest.”

    “For the entire day of April 9, 1948, Irgun and LEHI soldiers carried out the slaughter in a cold and premeditated fashion…The attackers ‘lined men, women and children up against the walls and shot them,’…The ruthlessness of the attack on Deir Yassin shocked Jewish and world opinion alike, drove fear and panic into the Arab population, and led to the flight of unarmed civilians from their homes all over the country.” Israeli author, Simha Flapan, “The Birth of Israel.”

    Those are just a few quotes among hundreds that show Lover’s point #3 to be full of B.S.

    Jesus Lover. You have to read the whole Bible to see how God feels about Israel. For example, Isaiah 59:

    2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

    3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.

    4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

    5 They hatch cockatrice’ eggs, and weave the spider’s web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.

    6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.

    7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.

    8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.


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