More truth about Russia, Georgia, South Ossetia and the USA

Better information is coming out all the time about the Russian-Georgian battle.  Of course you won’t find much of this good information in the US press.  All you hear is crap like VP Cheney saying that, “Russian aggression must not go unanswered,” and John McCain saying, “today, we are all Georgians.”  No, you have to search a bit in order to find out what is really going on in Georgia. 

Paul Craig Roberts former Assistant Secretary of the US treasury wrote this today:

And, today, August 9, 2008, as I write, it is the “liberal” Washington Post that has written an editorial urging the US to go to war with Russia.

With its editorial, “Stopping Russia: the US and its allies must unite against Moscow’s war on Georgia,” the Washington Post has established a world record for the maximum number of lies in the minimum number of words.

Except for the Washington Post, the entire world knows that Georgia (the birthplace of Joseph Stalin, not Georgia USA) initiated the aggression that killed Russian peacekeepers and hundreds of civilians in South Ossetia, peacekeepers who were there with the blessing of Georgia and international agreements.

The true facts are available all over the world press. But the “liberal” Washington Post serves up the lie that Russia has attacked Georgia and conceivably plans to conquer all of Georgia. “This is a grave challenge to the United States and Europe,” thunders the Bush Regime’s mouthpiece, aka, “the liberal media.”

Thirsting for blood, the “liberal media” declares: “The United States and its NATO allies must together impose a price on Russia.”

Here we see the combination of idiocy and delusion in one sentence. The United States has proved that it is incapable of occupying Iraq, much less Afghanistan. Russia has a large trade surplus. America’s NATO allies are dependent on Russian natural gas. Yet the “liberal” Washington Post wants a bankrupt US and “its NATO allies” who are dependent on Russian energy “to impose a price on Russia” for defending its peacekeepers!

Seldom has the world seen such total insanity as the neoconservative Washington Post, a propaganda sheet as far from “liberal media” is it is possible to be.

Georgia was part of Old Russia and the Soviet Union for two centuries. After Soviet communism collapsed, the US taxpayer funded neoconservative National Endowment for Democracy broke every agreement that President Reagan had made with Gorbachev and began using US taxpayers’ money to rig and purchase elections in former constituent parts of the Russian/Soviet empire.

The Endowment for Democracy purchased Georgia as a US colony. The affront to Russia was extreme, but at the time Russia was weak. Oligarchs with outside money had grabbed control over Russian resources, and Russia was in dire straits and could not resist American imperialism.

Putin corrected the situation for Russia.

Now using American weapons Georgia for reasons yet to be revealed has violated its own agreement with Russia and attacked South Ossetia, killing in the process Russian peacekeepers. Vladimir Vasilyev, chairman of the Russian State Duma Committee for Security told the press: “The things that were happening in Kosovo, the things that were happening in Iraq – we are now following the same path. The further the situation unfolds, the more the world will understand that Georgia would never be able to do all this without America.” http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/conflicts/106046-russia_georgia-0

Yes, without America there would be no war in Ossetia and no war between Russia and its former constituent part.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20483.htm

With some more information from a slightly different perspective than what we get from D.C., there’s also this from the ex-President of the Soviet Union!

What happened on the night of Aug. 7 is beyond comprehension. The Georgian military attacked the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali with multiple rocket launchers designed to devastate large areas. Russia had to respond. To accuse it of aggression against “small, defenseless Georgia” is not just hypocritical but shows a lack of humanity.

Mounting a military assault against innocents was a reckless decision whose tragic consequences, for thousands of people of different nationalities, are now clear. The Georgian leadership could do this only with the perceived support and encouragement of a much more powerful force. Georgian armed forces were trained by hundreds of U.S. instructors, and its sophisticated military equipment was bought in a number of countries. This, coupled with the promise of NATO membership, emboldened Georgian leaders into thinking that they could get away with a “blitzkrieg” in South Ossetia.

In other words, Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili was expecting unconditional support from the West, and the West had given him reason to think he would have it. Now that the Georgian military assault has been routed, both the Georgian government and its supporters should rethink their position.

Hostilities must cease as soon as possible, and urgent steps must be taken to help the victims — the humanitarian catastrophe, regretfully, received very little coverage in Western media this weekend — and to rebuild the devastated towns and villages. It is equally important to start thinking about ways to solve the underlying problem, which is among the most painful and challenging issues in the Caucasus — a region that should be approached with the greatest care.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/11/AR2008081101372_pf.html

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14 Responses to “More truth about Russia, Georgia, South Ossetia and the USA”


  1. 1 Rachel Baker August 14, 2008 at 3:30 am

    If you want to share with your readers a live blogger from ossetia check this out:

    http://ossetianwar.livejournal.com/

  2. 2 theradicalmormon August 14, 2008 at 6:17 am

    Awesome. Thank you very much for that link.

  3. 3 axinia August 14, 2008 at 6:35 am

    Exellent!
    intrestingly, I wrote just yesterday on the same topic from my Russian perspective:
    http://1000petals.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/russia-is-too-bad-at-its-pr/

  4. 4 theradicalmormon August 14, 2008 at 6:38 am

    Axinia,
    I read your post. Interesting points. Thanks for the link.

  5. 5 axinia August 14, 2008 at 6:43 am

    thanks, I will link to your post.

  6. 6 Andy August 14, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    I think it obvious that Russian Propaganda machine is working fine and you are part of it…..

  7. 7 theradicalmormon August 14, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    Just the facts ma’am.

  8. 8 Ed Darrell August 14, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    Just the facts?

    The facts are that Bush let Russia occupy Georgia, for years, without serious question or reprisal. The facts are that the situation has been more tense than it should have been for years, but Bush’s attention was elsewhere — on the eyes and soul of Putin, for example.

    Beyond that, we don’t really know much, do we?

    Bush was in Beijing with Putin, and couldn’t work out a truce?

    I don’t trust P. C. Roberts’ views; he’ll reflexively oppose any position the Washington Post stakes out. So we need more sources.

    Got any really good, trustworthy sources?

  9. 9 Qin August 14, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    Just some source for truth and justice , maybe you will be interested in.

  10. 10 theradicalmormon August 15, 2008 at 6:03 am

    Qin,
    Very nice link. I bet FOX didn’t want that little piece of the “Russian propaganda machine” to fit into that segment!

  11. 11 theradicalmormon August 15, 2008 at 6:27 am

    Ed,
    I have found antiwar.com and informationclearinghouse.net to be good sources on several issues around the world. There are a host of others as well, you just have to dig around a little bit on the internet.

    Bush didn’t LET Russia occupy Georgia. What happened is Georgia attacked S.O. in 1991, killing about 1000 people and forcing 100,000 to flee to N.O. In 1992 the two sides reached a cease-fire. By agreement a peacekeeping force made up of S.O., Georgians and Russians was established. Tenseness followed up until the present crisis when Georgia suddenly starting bombing the crap out of S.O. civilians. Russian peacekeeping forces and many Russian civilians were killed by Georgia. Thus Russia retaliates and protects the 12 year old girl interviewed by FOX.

    The whole world seems to understand this, but in the USA we live in an alternate reality… sort of like the Truman Show where we are all Truman.

  12. 12 Flabergasted August 16, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    The plans of Illuminati gone wrong!

  13. 13 mike August 17, 2008 at 8:49 am

    I am American but my girlfriend is russian. She and I have heard what happened and how it started ( Georgian troops bombing civilians). I do respect the truth on this blog but please especially the people from eastern Europe and Russia, please also post your info and some of those news videos on” popular ” western sites and forums like aol chat, yahoo, myspace forum, facebook, etc…. Something that most americans go on. They ( we ) need to hear or see the truth so people can wake up and make some better choices when it comes to local, state and, federal govt. Also so they can see the lies coming from western media about Russia ( Iran too ). Lets all stop Bush and anyone else from starting WWIII

    COME ON….WE CAN DO IT!!!!


  1. 1 Russia is too bad… at its PR « 1000petals Trackback on August 14, 2008 at 6:45 am

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