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		<title>Comment on There is no legitimate State of Israel! by sunnofabcrich</title>
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		<description>So pretty much what youre saying is that youre following in Jesus footsteps by supporting scum like Ahmadinajead and Chavez?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So pretty much what youre saying is that youre following in Jesus footsteps by supporting scum like Ahmadinajead and Chavez?</p>
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		<title>Comment on There is no legitimate State of Israel! by Forest Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forest Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sun, you&#039;re absolutely right; I am not Jesus, and I don&#039;t live in the Roman Empire!

However, his followers try to do what he would do if he were in similar circumstances.

America is a bigger empire than Rome, and exercises more power over a much bigger portion of the world than Rome ever did.  

If you think that influence is all benign, then you need to read William Blum&#039;s &quot;Killing Hope,&quot; and John Perkin&#039;s &quot;Confessions of an Economic Hit Man,&quot; for starters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sun, you&#8217;re absolutely right; I am not Jesus, and I don&#8217;t live in the Roman Empire!</p>
<p>However, his followers try to do what he would do if he were in similar circumstances.</p>
<p>America is a bigger empire than Rome, and exercises more power over a much bigger portion of the world than Rome ever did.  </p>
<p>If you think that influence is all benign, then you need to read William Blum&#8217;s &#8220;Killing Hope,&#8221; and John Perkin&#8217;s &#8220;Confessions of an Economic Hit Man,&#8221; for starters.</p>
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		<title>Comment on There is no legitimate State of Israel! by theradicalmormon</title>
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		<dc:creator>theradicalmormon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonalan,
You apparently know very little about the situation in Palestine.  You call me a genocidal anti-semite for calling for an end to Zionism and a just solution to the conflict there.  I have never called for genocide of any people.  It is the Zionist government which has from the beginning ethnically cleansed Palestine of Arab peoples as much as they could.  Have you read the history of the State of Israel?  Have you read how Israel used terrorism before Palestinians had even ever heard of the term?  Have you heard how they emptied hundreds of villages of Palestinians and made them uninhabitable so there would be no return?  Have you heard how in modern days, they wall off Palestine into prison cells and constantly kill or otherwise oppress the palestinians?  Have you heard how many Palestinians have died waiting to cross to Israeli hospitals for medical care because they were held up at the border by Israeli soldiers for no good reason?  Have you heard how Journalists are tortured like Mohammed Omer?  Have you heard how non-violent activists are jailed like Mohammed Othman?  Have you heard that there are something like 12,000 Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails, some of them children and many of them with no charges (administrative detainees) in a sort of twisted limbo.  You have heard of Gilad Shalit, but did you hear that the day before he was captured, Israel kidnapped two Palestinian brothers and still hasn&#039;t charged them?  Have you heard that the reason the truce broke down last year was because Israel killed 6 Hamas men before any rockets were fired into Israel?  Have you heard that Israel then killed 1300 Palestinians in January?  Did you know that Israel steals Palestinian&#039;s water on a continual basis, especially during the hottest months of the year?  Don&#039;t forget, water is like gold in arid climates and this is quite a big deal.  Have you heard that Israel imposes a naval blockade on Gaza, which act is considered an act of war by most of the rest of the world?  And with that blockade, they fire upon Gaza&#039;s fishermen with regularity and often destroy their boats.  They bulldoze Palestinian homes and force them into refugee camps.  The don&#039;t give full nationality to Arabs who live within Israel, constituting institutionalized racism as government policy.  Did you know all of this and yet you still call me genocidal?  Do you still think that Israel is the innocent good guys and the Palestinians are wackos with bees in their bonnets?  Truly, Isaiah spoke correctly of Israel when he said:

  2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
  3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
  4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.
  5 They hatch cockatrice’ eggs, and weave the spider’s web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.
  6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.
  7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.
  8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.

I call to Israel to repent of its wickedness and look to God and live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonalan,<br />
You apparently know very little about the situation in Palestine.  You call me a genocidal anti-semite for calling for an end to Zionism and a just solution to the conflict there.  I have never called for genocide of any people.  It is the Zionist government which has from the beginning ethnically cleansed Palestine of Arab peoples as much as they could.  Have you read the history of the State of Israel?  Have you read how Israel used terrorism before Palestinians had even ever heard of the term?  Have you heard how they emptied hundreds of villages of Palestinians and made them uninhabitable so there would be no return?  Have you heard how in modern days, they wall off Palestine into prison cells and constantly kill or otherwise oppress the palestinians?  Have you heard how many Palestinians have died waiting to cross to Israeli hospitals for medical care because they were held up at the border by Israeli soldiers for no good reason?  Have you heard how Journalists are tortured like Mohammed Omer?  Have you heard how non-violent activists are jailed like Mohammed Othman?  Have you heard that there are something like 12,000 Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails, some of them children and many of them with no charges (administrative detainees) in a sort of twisted limbo.  You have heard of Gilad Shalit, but did you hear that the day before he was captured, Israel kidnapped two Palestinian brothers and still hasn&#8217;t charged them?  Have you heard that the reason the truce broke down last year was because Israel killed 6 Hamas men before any rockets were fired into Israel?  Have you heard that Israel then killed 1300 Palestinians in January?  Did you know that Israel steals Palestinian&#8217;s water on a continual basis, especially during the hottest months of the year?  Don&#8217;t forget, water is like gold in arid climates and this is quite a big deal.  Have you heard that Israel imposes a naval blockade on Gaza, which act is considered an act of war by most of the rest of the world?  And with that blockade, they fire upon Gaza&#8217;s fishermen with regularity and often destroy their boats.  They bulldoze Palestinian homes and force them into refugee camps.  The don&#8217;t give full nationality to Arabs who live within Israel, constituting institutionalized racism as government policy.  Did you know all of this and yet you still call me genocidal?  Do you still think that Israel is the innocent good guys and the Palestinians are wackos with bees in their bonnets?  Truly, Isaiah spoke correctly of Israel when he said:</p>
<p>  2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.<br />
  3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.<br />
  4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.<br />
  5 They hatch cockatrice’ eggs, and weave the spider’s web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.<br />
  6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.<br />
  7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.<br />
  8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.</p>
<p>I call to Israel to repent of its wickedness and look to God and live.</p>
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		<title>Comment on There is no legitimate State of Israel! by jonolan</title>
		<link>http://theradicalmormon.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/there-is-no-legitimate-state-of-israel/#comment-2116</link>
		<dc:creator>jonolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when do you begin doing so, theradicalmormon? You&#039;re the traitor and the genocidal antisemite. When do you begin to make matters right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when do you begin doing so, theradicalmormon? You&#8217;re the traitor and the genocidal antisemite. When do you begin to make matters right?</p>
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		<title>Comment on There is no legitimate State of Israel! by sunnofabcrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunnofabcrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because you have such an objective view of right and wrong... horse****.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because you have such an objective view of right and wrong&#8230; horse****.</p>
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		<title>Comment on There is no legitimate State of Israel! by theradicalmormon</title>
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		<dc:creator>theradicalmormon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sun,
First step in repentance is a recognition of what you are doing is wrong.  That&#039;s where I come in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sun,<br />
First step in repentance is a recognition of what you are doing is wrong.  That&#8217;s where I come in.</p>
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		<title>Comment on There is no legitimate State of Israel! by sunnofabcrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunnofabcrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. you can&#039;t seek to &quot;right what is wrong&quot; if you don&#039;t believe in this country in the first place and youre sure as hell not preaching and loving the USA back to repentance, you instead turn to far worse countries than the USA... was it you or the other guy that said they would like to see Chavez in charge of the USA?  And Forrest youre not Jesus and this isn&#039;t the Roman empire</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. you can&#8217;t seek to &#8220;right what is wrong&#8221; if you don&#8217;t believe in this country in the first place and youre sure as hell not preaching and loving the USA back to repentance, you instead turn to far worse countries than the USA&#8230; was it you or the other guy that said they would like to see Chavez in charge of the USA?  And Forrest youre not Jesus and this isn&#8217;t the Roman empire</p>
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		<title>Comment on There is no legitimate State of Israel! by theradicalmormon</title>
		<link>http://theradicalmormon.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/there-is-no-legitimate-state-of-israel/#comment-2112</link>
		<dc:creator>theradicalmormon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Forest.

Jonalan,
Well then, this is the reason we cannot see eye to eye.  Abunimah is an American who writes for the Chicago and LA newspapers.  His mother was expelled from Palestine in 1948 by Jewish terrorists.  His Father was the Jordanian ambassador to the UN.  His site, eletronicintifada.com, has nothing to do with terrorism and religion, but has everything to do with the oppression of Israel over Palestinians.  Civilized people always define themselves as civilized while their crimes are hidden under their civilization.  When Ghandi was asked what he thought about western civilization he said that he thought it would be a good idea.  Nope, you cannot so easily dismiss this good man&#039;s work as lacking credibility.

Now, I am not talking about including surrounding nations in the one-state solution.  The people I am talking about here are the residents of Palestine.  You don&#039;t understand that?

Hamas is no more terrorist than the State of Israel is.  In fact, Israel pretty much invented modern day terrorism in establishing themselves in the land that they unlawfully took from the Palestinians.  Justice precludes all types of terrorists achieving their aims, including the terrorist regime of Zionism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Forest.</p>
<p>Jonalan,<br />
Well then, this is the reason we cannot see eye to eye.  Abunimah is an American who writes for the Chicago and LA newspapers.  His mother was expelled from Palestine in 1948 by Jewish terrorists.  His Father was the Jordanian ambassador to the UN.  His site, eletronicintifada.com, has nothing to do with terrorism and religion, but has everything to do with the oppression of Israel over Palestinians.  Civilized people always define themselves as civilized while their crimes are hidden under their civilization.  When Ghandi was asked what he thought about western civilization he said that he thought it would be a good idea.  Nope, you cannot so easily dismiss this good man&#8217;s work as lacking credibility.</p>
<p>Now, I am not talking about including surrounding nations in the one-state solution.  The people I am talking about here are the residents of Palestine.  You don&#8217;t understand that?</p>
<p>Hamas is no more terrorist than the State of Israel is.  In fact, Israel pretty much invented modern day terrorism in establishing themselves in the land that they unlawfully took from the Palestinians.  Justice precludes all types of terrorists achieving their aims, including the terrorist regime of Zionism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on There is no legitimate State of Israel! by jonolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us start with the fact that the article was written by a Muslim terrorist or one of their sympathizers and posted on a pro-Islamist website - not a credible source for facts in any civilized person&#039;s view.

Then let us move back to reality. Israel and Jews whose land it is do not, unlike the Afrikans, have to worry only about savagery from their internal enemies. They are surrounded and vastly outnumbered by enemy states who have repeatedly attempted to destroy them and continue to promise that they will succeed in doing so.

Finally, while one member or supporter of Hamas is still alive there can be no justice in a Palestinian state. Justice precludes allowing terrorists to achieve any of their aims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us start with the fact that the article was written by a Muslim terrorist or one of their sympathizers and posted on a pro-Islamist website &#8211; not a credible source for facts in any civilized person&#8217;s view.</p>
<p>Then let us move back to reality. Israel and Jews whose land it is do not, unlike the Afrikans, have to worry only about savagery from their internal enemies. They are surrounded and vastly outnumbered by enemy states who have repeatedly attempted to destroy them and continue to promise that they will succeed in doing so.</p>
<p>Finally, while one member or supporter of Hamas is still alive there can be no justice in a Palestinian state. Justice precludes allowing terrorists to achieve any of their aims.</p>
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		<title>Comment on There is no legitimate State of Israel! by Forest Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forest Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremiah stayed in Judah to fulfill his mission even though he knew it would be destroyed because of its wickedness, stoning the prophets, denying justice to the innocent, etc.

Nephi saw that in the latter days the devil would have dominion over the whole earth and that the dominion the saints would be small.

The American Empire, the world&#039;s only super power has dominion over the whole earth.  Its dominions are not small.  Is there any place you can go to escape the dominion of the American Empire or the dominion of the devil?

Yes, by standing in holy places.

The Israeli state is trying to estblish their Zion by trusting in the arm of the flesh, worshipping idols of steel.  Zion can only be established on principles of righteousness.

When the real Zion is established the Lord will dwell with his people, and as in the days of Enoc, He will protect them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremiah stayed in Judah to fulfill his mission even though he knew it would be destroyed because of its wickedness, stoning the prophets, denying justice to the innocent, etc.</p>
<p>Nephi saw that in the latter days the devil would have dominion over the whole earth and that the dominion the saints would be small.</p>
<p>The American Empire, the world&#8217;s only super power has dominion over the whole earth.  Its dominions are not small.  Is there any place you can go to escape the dominion of the American Empire or the dominion of the devil?</p>
<p>Yes, by standing in holy places.</p>
<p>The Israeli state is trying to estblish their Zion by trusting in the arm of the flesh, worshipping idols of steel.  Zion can only be established on principles of righteousness.</p>
<p>When the real Zion is established the Lord will dwell with his people, and as in the days of Enoc, He will protect them.</p>
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